By Matthew Schafer
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On my blog (www.schaferselfdefense.blogspot.com) I use a free service that lets me check the number of people coming to my site and lets me see how they got there and what keyword they searched for that took them there. I've been quite surprised as of late because I recently discovered that the vast majority of people who come to my blog get there because they searched for a topic relating to pressure points. My recent article, "The Use Of Pressure Points", is by far my most popular and it does make sense because in the martial arts pressure points are still seen by many as being one of the last mystical teachings left.
When I look at the list of keywords and phrases that people searched for I found that they were all pretty close to the same: "How to knock someone out with pressure points", "Pressure point knockout", "How to touch someone and knock them out with a pressure point", etc. What is very clear is that people are interested in how pressure points can render someone unconscious. So, after careful consideration, I have decided to give people what they want and to write an article explaining how pressure points can knock someone out and how to do it.
At first I was a little leery about writing this article but after some thought I realized that if people don't learn the truth behind pressure points then they'd probably keep searching until they found some really bad information and either hurt someone with it or got hurt by it. I think that putting this information out will most likely do far more good than harm, so why not give the people what they want?
Disclaimer
A few of the searches that brought people to my blog asked how they could knock their friends out with pressure points. Please, DON'T PLAY AROUND WITH THIS STUFF. Most pressure points are just nerves that sit right underneath the skin and by pressing down on them you cause people pain, and it you want to use those on your buddies then you most likely won't do any harm, but making your buddies say "Oww" is the extent of what you can safely play around with.
One of the truths in the martial arts is that you never truly know what will happen when you touch someone, and therefore there is no such thing as "less-than-lethal techniques". If you press down on a buddy's fingernail you're going to cause him great pain and that could be fun, but if you go further and apply pressure to a point that affects an artery then you could potentially kill him.
The solar plexus is considered a "non-lethal" target and may young guys enjoy punching their friends there when they're not looking. Their friend gets winded and everyone laughs, but right behind the solar plexus is the abdominal aorta and if your friend has a heart condition it could send him into cardiac arrest and he could die. What about the groin? I know a lot of young guys that like slapping their friends in the testicles when they're not looking. Fun right? Most people don't know that when you strike the groin you also affect the respiratory system, and if your friend has asthma or another undiagnosed respiratory disorder then that little game of grab ass could potentially end up with a seriously injured or dead friend.
The point I'm trying to make is that there really is no way on knowing exactly how someone will react to even a small amount of trauma. A large number of the population walks around with undiagnosed disorders or diseases and something that wouldn't adversely affect another person would result in serious injury or death to them. Many people have even died from being slapped in the head. It sounds odd but certain people are born predisposed to brain aneurisms and any firm blow to the head will kill them. Thousands die every year from someone pushing, tripping, or punching them and when they fall they hit their head on the ground and that impact either kills them, causes brain damage, or puts them in a coma. Even a simple wrist lock could be fatal if it causes the subject to lose their balance and hit their head on the ground.
Pressure points are not something that should be played around with. They should only be practiced under the watch of a trained instructor and even then a first aid kit and a phone should be kept near in case of injury. No one wants to be responsible for the death of a friend so DON'T play around with what you'll learn here or any other martial art technique.
"Chi" In Perspective
When talking about pressure points you can't really ignore the topic of "chi" (internal energy). Many schools teach that you can use your chi, or disrupt someone else's chi, to render them unconscious. While I am a firm believer in the existence of chi, and have felt it's affects many times during Tai Chi or Chi Gung practice, there are a few problems with the idea of using chi to knock someone out.
Firstly, historically there have been several different definitions of what chi really is. While the term "chi" has been used to mean "internal energy" it has also been used to mean such things as "focus" and "correctly using body mechanics". Many Chinese historians believe that in the past hitting someone with "chi" didn't mean to use your life-giving internal force to hit an opponent, but rather to focus and use proper body mechanics. After a few years of studying Tai Chi Chuan I realized that often when they said "chi" they really meant "body weight". Many times I saw an instructor seemingly just touch someone and make them fly backwards, but upon examination you'd see that they just bent their knees to drop their bodyweight and used their arm to transfer that force into their partner.
Personally I think that there are two kinds of chi. There is the universal force which supports life (and may be some type of electro-magnetism) and there is martial arts chi which is really just mental focus and the proper use of body mechanics and the application of bodyweight.
Secondly, the documented success of using chi to knock people out is extremely suspect. There are many people who teach pressure points for martial purposes, such as George Dillman, but when examined they have almost zero success when using their techniques on people who don't study their system and very sketchy success on people who do study their system. If you watch videos from these schools you'll see demonstrations where students strike their partner's pressure points to render them unconscious and then quickly rush over to revive him, however upon closer inspection it can clearly be seen that in the majority of the cases the person isn't unconscious. In most of the demonstrations that I've seen the supposedly unconscious person has their eyes open, is looking around the room, and moving their arms while their fellow students are trying to revive them.
I think that the George Dillman style of "chi" pressure point knockouts that is going around is pure crap. Time and time again it doesn't work when done against journalists and other people from outside their system, and when it does work against people inside their system I think it works the same way as a placebo. I also think that the people who teach this stuff know it doesn't work, but they also know that if they can get a group of people to rush over to the "unconscious" partner as soon as he falls down they can obstruct people's view enough where they won't see that he isn't really unconscious.
Many of the pressure points that the various styles use to knock people out actually work but not because of chi. If you closely examine the point you'll see that the point sits on top of a major nerve or artery which is the real cause of the unconsciousness.
Again, I am a big believer in chi but I have never seen a martial use of it that wasn't actually just an intelligent use of body dynamics. Chi is a wonderful thing, but I never seen any credible evidence that shows that it can be used as a weapon.
The Causes of Unconsciousness
Before we get to the actual pressure points we need to have an understanding of how unconsciousness happens. If you understand the causes of unconsciousness you'll be able to understand how the pressure points work and you'll be better able to judge the effectiveness of any technique that you may see in the future.
There are three things that will cause a person to pass out and become unconscious: 1.) A lack of oxygen, 2.) A sudden drop in blood pressure, and 3.) Trauma to the brain or when the brain gets overloaded with signals. Any time someone passes out the cause is one of these three reasons. So now that we know the reasons let's look at them a little closer and figure out some pressure points.
A lack of oxygen
When your body is deprived of oxygen your brain begins to shut down and unconsciousness usually occurs in around 30 seconds to one minute. How can we attack the body to affect a "respiratory knockout"? The most obvious way is to attack the windpipe, so the windpipe could be considered to be a pressure point.
There are a few ways to use the windpipe as a pressure point. The first is called a "one handed choke hold". To do this you place the webbing between your thumb and index finger on the windpipe and wrap your four fingers around the back on their neck. You then use your thumb to push the windpipe into your hand. The next is a "forearm choke hold" which can be done in several ways but all involve placing your forearm across the windpipe and pressing into it to cut off oxygen flow.
The second pressure point could be the nose and mouth. By using the palm of your hand to create a seal over someone's nose and mouth you can stop their breathing and cause unconsciousness in about 30 seconds to one minute. However, in terms of using the respiratory system to produce unconsciousness, that is about it. A hard blow to the groin, solar plexus, or diaphragm could alter someone's breathing enough to cause them to black out but there's no guarantee this will happen.
The third are the lungs themselves. It is not too hard to hit someone and knock the wind out of them but it is probably impossible to hit someone hard enough in the lungs to prevent them from inflating. The way you would use the lungs to knock someone out is to squeeze them so tight that they cannot inflate, and generally this is done by lying on someone’s chest. You need to be careful in attempting this because there have been many poorly trained security guards who have laid on a suspect’s chest without realizing it and ended up killing them because they couldn’t breathe.
A sudden drop in blood pressure
In all the cases where people faint or pass out and become unconscious the cause of the vast majority (probably in the high 90%) is a sudden drop in blood pressure. People who stand up too quickly and become light headed or pass out and people who undergo an emotional shock and pass out are examples of a person suffering from a sudden drop in blood pressure.
A sudden drop in blood pressure can be caused by an event that happens either in the heart or the arteries. An event that happens in the heart that results in a sudden drop in blood pressure could be a heart attack, irregular heartbeat, trauma to the heart which causes it to pause or slow down, or the brain could stop sending the signal for the heart to beat, or the nervous system could stop sending it.
An event in the arteries generally refers to a situation where the person is bleeding and loses so much blood that blood pressure drops significantly. Another arterial event is caused by pinching an artery either with the hand or with a hard strike. If you press down on one of the body's major arteries you can cause the blood pressure to rise significantly. When the brain detects this rise it thinks that the body is in trouble so it acts to lower the blood pressure to bring it back down in normal levels. However, since the rise in blood pressure is caused by you pressing down on an artery and not a real bodily malfunction the blood pressure drops so suddenly that the person passes out.
In this context the heart itself could be considered to be a pressure point. Being fairly well protected you'll have to hit the heart very hard and instead of quickly retracting your fist like a traditional reverse punch you'll want to push all the way through and keep the fist in contact with the target for as long as you can. A hard punch or other blow to the heart can definitely cause unconsciousness.
The next pressure point to cause blood pressure to drop suddenly would be the carotid arteries in the neck. These arteries are large and serve as the brain's main blood supplier. The carotid arteries can be found in the front of the neck, on either sides of the windpipe, and right behind the jugular veins. There are a few ways you can apply pressure to the carotid arteries. First, you can grab the front of the throat and use your thumb to press into one artery on one side and the fingers into the other. By pinching down on the carotid arteries you can cause someone to get light headed in 2 or 3 seconds and pass out in 6 to 10. The bad part about this is that this is a very unsecure grip and it will be easy for an opponent to pull out of. It should also be mentioned that again this could be fatal and if you cause one of the arteries to tear, death is nearly certain.
Another method is known as either the"Japanese Stranglehold", the "Marine Stranglehold", or the "Thugee Stranglehold". From behind you wrap your left arm around their neck so that their windpipe sits in the crook of your elbow, and you place your left hand on the inside of your right elbow. You place your right hand on the back of their head and you use it to push their head forwards into your left arm while that arm squeezes in on the sides of the neck. This is a very dangerous technique and should never be applied for more than 10 seconds. The moment the body starts to go limp you should release the hold otherwise you may seriously injure or kill the person.
While the Japanese Stranglehold mainly works by cutting off blood flow to the brain, you can cause unconsciousness by striking into the carotid artery with the side of your hand or your forearm and you'll get that sudden drop in blood pressure that causes a knockout. Again, be very careful while doing this because in striking to this area you can also hit the throat and other nerves.
Another pressure point is the temple. If you place your finger on your temple, just above the outer edge of your eyebrow, you can feel your pulse. In this area your temporal artery carries blood just underneath the skin. By striking the temple you can pinch the artery and render the person unconscious. Striking too hard can easily result in death.
Perhaps considered a more traditional pressure point, the vegas nerve is one of the most vulnerable pressure points on the body. The vegas nerve connects the brain and the heart and a blow to this nerve will quickly render an individual unconscious. The vegas nerve is located on both sides of the neck about an inch below the base of the ear. It is not one little spot you have to hunt for but rather a long nerve that runs down the length of the neck and pressing down anywhere in that area affects the nerve.
If you press down firmly with your thumb you can cause immediate pain and lightheadedness. If you place your palm or forearm on the side of the neck and bounce a few times you can cause the person to pass out. The often cited "Judo Chop" that knocks people out, shown in many movies such as "Austin Powers", is a chop done with the side of the hand to the vegas nerve. Again, be very careful because if the person has a heart condition, or you hit them too hard, it can be fatal.
When someone gets struck in the vegas nerve they will roll their eyes up in the head, faint, and fall to the ground. They may be out for a few seconds or more than a minute. When they come to they will be lightheaded, have a horrorable headache, be nauseous, and will most likely have poor motor skills for a period of time. After a blow to the vegas nerve the person will feel horrorable and usually won't be able to walk, some have trouble crawling, and they'll usually want to vomit. The last thing that they'll want to do is to fight. These affects usually only last ten to twenty minutes, but the headache and nauseous feeling usually last all day.
Trauma to the brain and when the brain gets overloaded with signals
Trauma to the brain basically means a concussion. If you strike someone in the top of the skull with a stick the impact will cause the brain to shut down (the conscious brain anyway) and the person will pass out, if sufficient force is used. If someone suffers whiplash, or they're struck just right, it can cause their brain to strike against the inside of the skull and cause unconsciousness. In terms of causing someone to pass out due to brain trauma the only way you can get it is if you cause a concussion. The easiest way to cause a concussion is to either strike someone's head against a solid object or strike them in the jaw. By striking someone in the jaw you'll cause the head to rapidly twist slightly faster than the brain can move and you'll get your concussion.
Another way of causing unconsciousness is to cause the brain to get overloaded with signals. If the brain receives too many signals as once it will want to shut down and the person will pass out. To do this, called and "electrical knockout", you can either hit multiple spots at once or you can strike certain nerves located close to the brain.
An example of hitting someone multiple times would be to step into your opponent with a double punch (left hand going to the liver and right hand going to the spleen) while also doing a kick or knee to the groin. By striking three areas at the same time you cause the brain to get overloaded and passing out is a near certainty. The catch is that you can't hit someone lightly; you need to step in with your bodyweight and give 100% to all three strikes.
There are several nerves that are located in the head and neck and when struck they will fire rapidly causing an "electrical storm" inside the body which will overload the brain and cause the brain to shut down. The first set of nerves are located in what is called the "horse shoe". On both sides of your head you have nerves that run from your temples down the sides of your head, behind your jaw, and down your neck. From temple to temple you have a horse-shoe of nerves that can all produce unconsciousness. These nerves exit your brain at your temples and are another reason striking to the temples can produce a knockout. Then they run behind your jaw where they are especially vulnerable.
There are two reasons that striking someone in the jaw can cause lightheadness and unconsciousness. The first is that it can result in a concussion as discussed above and the second is that the jaw can be slammed back against the skull and pinch that bundle of nerves. You can strike the jaw straight back towards the skull or you can strike the jaw from the side and drive the other side into the nerves. It doesn’t have to be done as hard as you can but it does have to be done firmly to produce a knockout.
The other area where these nerves can be found is the back of the neck. The back of the neck is full of nerves and you need to be very careful because striking this area can be fatal. A firm blow anywhere on the back of the neck will cause lightheadedness and disorientation and a hard blow will cause unconscious. If you strike anywhere from the center of the back of the neck to the brainstem you can cause unconsciousness first and death second either by damaging the nerve that tells the diaphragm to contract and causing the person to asphyxiate while they're unconscious or by cutting into the spinal cord and causing the blood pressure to drop so rapidly that they die instantly (called "spinal shock"). If you strike anywhere from the center of the back of the neck to where the neck connects to the torso you can cause consciousness first and then permanent paralysis from the neck down.
As far as knocking people out goes that's basically it. Either you can deprive them of oxygen, get their blood pressure to drop suddenly, cause trauma to their brain, or cause an electrical knockout by overloading their brain with electrical signals. There really isn't any secret spot where you can press down and cause immediate unconsciousness. The closest to that is the carotid artery or the vegas nerve. The whole idea of hitting "gall bladder 3", then "triple warmer 6", and then "prostate 69" and knocking someone out doesn't hold up to science, and to be honest it is ridiculous. Instead of hunting and pecking for three tiny little spots on someone’s body and hitting them in the correct order why don't you just step in and drive your palm into their jaw? It's a lot easier and guaranteed to work.
One last note about hitting nerves, if you hit any nerve in the body enough times you can send the person into cardiac arrest and potentially kill them. For example, there was an instance at Guantanamo Bay where the US military hung up a prisoner and every time someone walked by him they'd knee him in the side of the leg in the common peroneal nerve causing extreme pain. This was an attempt to "break him" but it soon let to him having a heart attack. Any repeat trauma to the same nerve can be potentially fatal.
I thank you for reading this article and I hope you understand both pressure point and the martial arts better. If you have any questions or comments I'd love to hear them.
77 comments:
this is really good article..i was wondering since it seems that you have really gotten into this, if you know about the pressure pointon your wrist that if you preee hard on the right nerve that your fingers will release and some pain...do you which nereve it is???
I'm quite sure what you're asking. Are you asking about a pressure point that releaves pain?
Does the sudden drop of blood pressure, such as pressure to the carotid artery, cause brain damage? Would it be exceedingly dangerous in a demonstration?
Is there a pressure point at the top of the left shoulder to cause someone to pass out? I don't need specifics on where. This morning I had a chair massage after my workout and that was the last place the guy pressed before I passed out, and quickly too. I came out of it moments later as he was getting me to the floor - I am just curious.
Thanks,
Sarah
This is a good article, I was looking through this because not long back I had 2 friends come over and the older one explained to us what happens with the pressure point, so my other friend asked if she could do it on her to see what happens, even though she did the right grip she could still move, but then they tried it on me and they done the same thing to the back of my neck but I couldnt move and it made me fall to the ground, is this technique used in police work ?
Sorry that it has taken me so long to respond to the comments.
What determines whether brain damage results is the length of time blood flow is suspended to the brain. A blow to the carotid artery will put pressure on the carotid artery causing the blood pressure to go up, and the body will respond by lowering blood pressure to correct it. But since the since the rise in blood pressure was artificial and only lasts for a few seconds the effort to lower the blood pressure is too drastic and results in a drastic and swift drop in blood pressure causing them to pass out.
Now, if you closed off the arteries with a strangle hold the blood flow to the brain would be greatly reduced or stopped and if continued for a long enough time brain damage could result. A good rule of thumb with a strangle hold is to stop as soon as a person goes limp and don’t keep the hold for over 10 seconds.
As far as a pressure point in the shoulder causing unconsciousness, there is the brachial artery which runs through that area as well as several nerves that come directly from the spine, however it would think the unconsciousness and massage are unrelated. Since masseuses spend a lot of time on the shoulders I would think that, if this were true, there would be an epidemic of people passing out while getting shoulder massages.
As far as grabbing the neck making you immobile and then dropping to the ground, I don’t know how you were grabbed. They could have pinched a nerve or an artery. If it is used in police work, again since I don’t know exactly how they grabbed you I cannot say.
the article was really nice but how ever it taught nothing about what i was asking how do you knock someone out with pressure points.
Then read the article again.
Are there any nerves that run along your arm that can cause a person to lapse into unconsciousness?
-Cole
If you strike any nerve hard enough or repeatedly you can possibly cause unconsciousness or cardiac arrest.
The only thing in the arm itself that can cause unconsciousness is the brachial artery. This artery can be found on the upper portion of the inside of the arm, underneath the biceps muscle.
Pinching this artery will most
likely not cause unconsciousness and is taught in first aide classes; but a hard strike to the brachial artery could potentially cause unconsciousness.
In my opinion, the best way to use the arm to cause unconsciousness is to use it to throw the person head first into the ground.
Great answer on the arm throw. I think like you! Amazing article too. It helped me understand just how weak the body can really be and to not take things so lightly. Kids these days tend to get the idea to play with pressure points. At least now they can learn that it's harmful, if not fatal.
I know there is a pressure point in the wrist that can cause extreme pain to some people however others can ignore it. I know how effective it is because I once got someone and they were suffering from it however the teacher couldn't even detect it because all they could do was whimper.
dude i need to know the exact position of the pressure points to knock someone out
hey thanks for the article tnzts more knowledge than ill need but do you think an amature like a13 year old like me could do it because i got some people who wana fight me i walked away the 1st time but the 2nd time they showed up at my house:[].!
To simply get rid of someone who wants to fight you, take him by the element of surprise etc from behind,maybe put him into a chokehold,and if he trys to get out,simply slam his head into a nearby wall and quickly let go,as he will go flying and smack. An easy Knockout. Another way to get rid of someone who is wanting to fight you is say you know karate or something taichi, and that if you fuck with me, then I'll knock ur ass unconscious and simply avoid the fight, in great measures simply aim for the face and when he's not looking take out his legs and chop under his arms which will render his arms useless which will let you be able to quickly go for the choke hold until he passes out and/or taps. I've killed plenty in my career as a U.S Marine,and consider learning a form of karate so you don't get bullied,as I had suffered from bullying and ended up going to jail as partially knocking someone unconscious because I hit there Nerves point which sent them into cardiac arrest, only use these techniques if in dire need and no way to avoid.
Thanks for the artical, it really got me thinking about how to knock someone out quickly and not drag out as much time as possible. also I was wanting to know if that if you accidentally hit someone in a spot repeatedly and it killed them, would you be a countable for murder even if it was self defense? thank you I hope to see a reply soon _Dwight the assassain Haddix
This article really helped me out with pressure points, I read this article and now I know what you can and can't do with the body.
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I read this article and another you wrote about how to read your attacker and I found this truely helpful. I often get parnoid due to where I live so I wanted to know how to defend myself. I'd just like to say thank you
hey i managed to solve the fight with those other kids and i accidentaly on purpose ko ed the guy who showed up at my house( it felt good)but i busted my middle finger :[] hey guy from oct 2 thanks for the advice tho i didnt use it.
read article above
i meant anonymos ƒrom oct 12
ps i live in the getto of racine WI
pps i cant belived i ko ed him and im only 13 i thought only pros could do that
This is a very good way to defend yourselves, by the way if you killed your opponents by using these methods for self-defence, are you going to be a criminal or not? because there are many assholes here that needs to be Knocked out.
I apologize for taking so long to respond to comments, I get so busy I don’t check my blog enough.
I can’t really speak on legal matters as I am not a lawyer. You need to check the laws of your state. What I will say is if you are in a violent situation then save your life first and worry about legal issues later. Once the situation is over DO NOT speak to the police until you talk to a lawyer. When the police ask you questions tell them you want to speak to a lawyer before making a statement. The police will try to get you to talk first in hopes that you will make so many statements that by the time a lawyer comes in they can’t help you.
I’m not going to give you an exact point and if you can’t figure one out from the article you probably shouldn’t know one.
To mynameis832@gmail.com, I wouldn’t do it in a demonstration. What will lead to brain damage is the amount of time the brain is deprived of oxygen and blood and if something goes wrong and the body doesn’t come right back it could. Also, if the carotid artery tears, which it can, they will most likely die. The only time you should ever try to manipulate the circulatory system is if you are trying to save or end a life.
u r right on in ur information. unfortunaly for me i was the recipient of the wind pipe hold 3 X's in 2 minute. 30 sec is true. i played possum. but on the 3rd hold after not being strong or practied enough to exscape, i pointed my finger at his eye gentley waving good bye as i accepted my death at the hands of my signifacant other, when it apeared to have woke him up from a trance & i jumped out a 1st floor window
i know u will probably never get to tHis seeing u have so many people asking u questions but i just want to know how to make someone passout for defense purposes instead of punching or fighting and getting into a lot of trouble just by defending my self this would be a discrete way if u could tell me my email is cherisedovua@Hotmail.com
Astounding information, but i will be honest I was directed to this website after questioning whether a persons' bloodflow is slowed down if they are knocked / made unconscious?
The idea behind the question is that in many potentially fatally accidents that people have and are losing blood, yet remain conscious until its too late, would it be beneficial to knock them out straight away to reduce blood flow?
and if so, what would be the correct point to do this?
I ask this because I have been in and seen some accidents that if blood could have been slowed it may have provided enough time for an ambulance or emergency officer to arrive on the scene and administer necessary medical care
Very interested to hear your opinion, answers if you have them, and anyone elses' opinions as I believe (without the right basis of knowledge), that this could be beneficial in some circumstances
Hello I am trying to learn about the origins and the beginning of pressure point usage it seems you are getting asked a lot of questions but if you could answer this question It would be very appreciated. By the way I'm writing a research paper on this subject so if you do respond to my question please put in every detail it would be very very appreciated.
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Thank you for posting about how to knock someone out. I'm writing a novel at the moment and my character needs to knock someone out. I will come back to your site for other information when I need to write how to disable or fight someone. Thank you. April
You can knock someone out instantly with a kiss to the neck - I know as my husband did it accidentally to me one night. I leant forwards to kiss him goodnight as he sat in his chair and woke up a few minutes later on the floor with a very worried husband next to me. I don't remember anything apart from him forcfully kissing my neck. It was instant knock-out. I am very fit, nothing wrong with me and it was 2 years ago. Never fainted before or since - but he dare not kiss my neck ever again!
Amazing!...isn't this simular to Dim Mak? In the ninjutsu martial arts?.....I find it fasinating!...can you please teach more self defence techniques? Do you know any sort of Martial arts? I'd like to be your friend! I love the martial arts and fighting techniques leeyang385@gmail.com ....... Japanese Martial arts are also amazing....any kind of fighting...of a true warrior or just for self defence..very important for women.....xD
Can this be tried on oneself? Wouldn't want to harm anyone...it seems dagerous and fatal....
To Shane Johns: When the body is unconscious it is less active and therefore blood flow (heart rate) does indeed slow down. If someone is bleeding please don’t knock them out and this can make the situation much worse. Apply pressure to the wound and precede with first aide and medical attention.
The thing is you never know what will happen inside a person’s body when you put your hands on them. Sure, I know what will happen for the most part if I drive 40 lbs through someone’s rib cage and into their spleen, but I don’t know their medical condition. If they have a genetic heart or respiratory condition and you mess with either of those two systems you could kill them. I understand you reasoning, but if knocking them out was beneficial you’d see paramedics doing it.
To Hunter D: The history of pressure points is the history of Chinese Acupuncture. From acupuncture came many of the secrets of martial arts. I simply don’t have the time to post a intricate history by do a search for “history of pressure points,” “history of acupuncture,” and “history of Dim Mak.”
The lady that commented about being rendered unconscious with a kiss to the neck is very correct. What happens is both of your bodies collided and the point of impact was the side of you neck. On the side of your neck is the vegas nerve which was talked about in the article. Now you get to brag about having a husband with “killer lips”.
Don't try this on yourself, you are correct that it is dangerous.
Thank you for this wonderful and informative article. I really appreciated it. The article was simple and to the point. very wel written. I now have a better understanding of how the human body works regarding pressure points. Thank you again!
Thanks for the article! It answer my questions about everything. I was worried that pressing down on the side of a person's neck can kill him. So thanks!
Thanks for the info. I'm a writer and wanted a realistic way to knock someone out. With this info, I can write a convincing scene. I really appreciate it.
This article was absolutely enlightening. I learned so many thins about the body I hadn't thought about before. It really made me understand how fragile the body is. Now every time I see guys "Junk punching" each other I will definitely remember this!:)
Thank you so much for this article, I was reduced after searching "self defense using pressure points" in case I ever had to worry about being bullied again, but knowing what I know now I feel much safer and can't thank you enough
I am a retired U.S Marine, and enjoyed this artical very much. I tought and unfourtuantly have had to use hand to hand combat for several years during my time in various conflickts around the world. This artical was a great way to inform people of just how dangerous messing around with pressure points is. I have tought each of my 4 children the art of self defence and far more important then knowing how to usepresure points, is knowing how to avoid them as well during play fighting or sparing as we all did many times over the years. I will be looking for more of your articals.
hey, this article was not bad but i didnt come to know of the exact point to press so my patients dont get any harm
Great post. Thanks
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This article was GREAT! I especially loved the one where you wrap the web of your hand around the neck and push the wind pipe with your thumb into your fingers! I tried it softly on myself, but even softly, I coughed hard out! You are my hero man!
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This article was absolutely enlightening. I learned so many thins about the body I hadn't thought about before. It really made me understand how fragile the body is. Now every time I see guys 'Junk punching' each other I will definitely remember this!:)
August 10, 2013 at 2:47 PM"
um, junk punching...? does that mean exactly what i think it means? are you saying that this is something the guys you hang around do at times? and if so... why??
I know in a while some girls in my class made something that caused people to blackout. If I remember correctly, they said to hold your breath for 10 seconds while spinning and your right arm holding the left biceps and viceversa. Then, one of them went behind you and lifted you from the toracic area, just a second, and repeated it a few times. I hope it makes sense and that you can tell me if it's something that really works or it's just something scripted by them. I quite think it might be, as the principal of the school forbidden everybody from using this, so it might be serious.
Can you post an article about how to do a "joint lock" (there from Aikido).
Zabbidou, there are various routines kids have come up with to make themselves experience the "high" of passing out. In the one you described you have holding your breath which is depriving your brain of oxygen and holding your biceps which is where the brachial artery is so you also have a potential drop in blood pressure. Yes it could be potentially dangerous so don’t try it.
Jaume, there are countless ways to do a joint lock. There are only six ways to lock a joint: hyperextension, flexion, abduction, adduction, supination, and pronation. Basically you grab a part of the body, move it through its range of motion, and somewhere within the 360 degrees you will reach the end of that joints range of motion. Once you get it there you can keep pressure on it to create pain or you can force it passed to tear the joint. I assuming you take Aikido, and if so you should get great instruction on joint locking. Ikyo, Nikyo, and Sankyo are techniques I practice regularly.
Good article here. Thanks for clearing a lot of it up. Oddly enough I have managed to knock somebody out with a pressure point chop to the side of the neck, the point just an inch below the ear (Learned what it was from you, thanks). He was about to assault me and I detest fighting and this was a complete accident, I remember trying for a throat chop so I could escape but this happened lol. I called him an ambulance and left the scene, but nonetheless, I am fully aware of the dangers this can cause. Well done for highlighting them.
listen i wanna know an easy way which is easy to capture a easily captured pressure point t o knock someone out..... i made my friend read this article and made him learn all techniques he was somewhere in pakistan and he got attacked he tried all techniques but none of them worked and all his money got stolen so many bruses and a broken arm so i want a technique that is easy to capture and effects rapidly
Hassan Ali, in this article I gave points and methods for inducing unconsciousness but I didn’t go over how to apply them in a violent situation and I have intention of doing so. If your friend is in a dangerous situation he should get some training from a competent instructor. If one is not available there are more than enough videos for sale and even free instructional information on the internet to make him at least somewhat effective in the realm of violence. I put out a lot of information and the people who can use it do so and the people who can’t need a competent instructor.
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The paramedic who knocked me out by use of a pressure point knew exactly what he was doing after I told him "No." What if I hadn't come to? Who would have raised my children? He got away with it. What a despicable man!!!!!
Thanks for your article. Was doing research for a short story with potential for novel, and your article is a wealth of information.
Like most other people here,I am also writing a story.This was an amazing article and you seem to know your information.Thanks to you,my story will be much better.
Is there a pressure point that will cause temporary paralysis?
Thanks for the kind words. I also have an article entitled "Using Pressure Points" (published Sept 5, 2009) where I rate my favorite pressure points.
Yes their are certain points that can cause temporary paralysis but that is very, very dangerous. There is a fine line between temporary paralysis and permanent paralysis, and paralysis of the diagram which means you suffocate while paralyzed.
If you want to learn more there is a wealth of information out there but that's as far as I'll get into it.
So many ghetto fools in racine what move did you use...im in racine county but not in the hood.
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This was a pleasant article to read, although I had encountered much of the information before the way that it was logically set out allowed me to integrate both the old and the new data more smoothly than I had before.
I will definitely be checking out more of this blog, in the meantime I hope that I am not being impertinent by pointing one minor point out and addressing previous comments.
The nerve referred to that runs from the brain to the heart is the vagus nerve, spelled as though it were indistinct rather than a place to gamble, I mention this only because some might lose out on some excellent information and insights by judging the article on a trival typo.
That location was the object of the search that brought me to this site, it's an easy to target spot but the specifics of how to use it without causing needless harm are difficult to learn without potentially hazardous real life practice, I'll be continuing my search to find out exactly what the pound force range is to be effective in subduing someone without harm (I want to train a specific knuckle strike to be within that range instinctively, something that I also hope never to test.
A commenter mentioned being knocked out non-consensually by a paramedic, while I do not know the specifics of their situation I am slowly training for that skill set for my public safety work and know several paramedics.
Regardless of the ethics or legality, some paramedics do have the habit of rendering people unconscious and therefore beyond the requirement of having consent for treatment when they believe that a delay could potentially cost the patient unduly.
Some of them might be a bit too comfortable with the practice, at some times it saves a life.
Regarding Dim Mak as one eager reader was touting, some friends of mine became enamored of a move that they saw in a video about a "hidden master" where unconsciousness could be induced by a series of three strikes to the wrist, inner elbow, and shoulder in order.
They experimented on each other without knowing precisely where the points were located, and at least one of them was successfully knocked out, fortunately they gave up the practice as the technique is rumored to be capable of causing death.
I've looked for the points on myself and suspect that I know which pressure points they might be, reading your article and the means of inducing unconsciousness by overloading the brain suggests that perhaps the technique if used with proper timing sends an overload through the brachial plexus to the CNS, with each hit building on the signal of the one before.
(the last point is just speculation, I am not highly trained in combat arts but find my interest in them as well as medicine, the healing arts, and anatomy makes this sort of thing fascinating)
Can a person wake up themselves after being hit with pressure points?
No you cannot wake yourself up, you're unconscious.
This was perfect for my novel research, thank you so much!
What are the side effects of the Japanese Stranglehold?
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Krishna, the effects of the stranglehold depend largely on how long it is applied. If applied correctly it typically takes 6 to 9 seconds for the person to be rendered unconscious. Since it can be fatal if applied for too long it is widely taught not to apply for over 10 seconds due to the danger and also if they don’t go out after 10 seconds you’re most likely doing something wrong. How long the person is out varies, but the general rule is the person will be out for twice the length of time that the hold was applied. So, if the hold was applied for 9 seconds and the person passed out the will most likely be out for about 18 seconds or so. Before they go out they will get light headed, acquire tunnel vision, and they will often lose their ability to see color and their vision will switch to black and white. While their out some people do spasm and foam at the mouth and others do not. When they do regain consciousness they are often a little nauseous and have a slight headache but that often goes away within 15 minutes or so. If the hold is applied too long it becomes far more extreme. A teenager was recently making a video about this technique and applied it for 40 seconds on his cousin and he killed him.
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Is there any knock out pressure point or any way to make others pass out safe? Also when ever I watch a video where an person gets knocked out at a dojo they do this weird thing where they sit them up and start hitting their neck and rubbing it, what are they doing?
There is no 100% safe way to make someone pass out. You never know what someone's physical condition and medical history are. What is normally completely safe for one person could be fatal for someone with an undiagnosed heart condition. What you see in the videos are instructors putting the person in a recovery position and stimulate pressure points. This makes sure the person is in a safe position, has a clear breathing passage, and by slapping and massaging the neck you stimulate the circulatory and nervous system to help revive them.
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I didn't have a chance to read all of it but I'm looking forward to it sometimes I roll thru here.
May personally I got trained in the Gracie camp for many years and the funny thing is people can watch it on TV but they still can't learn it you have to do it you have to practice it you have to know it and you all can talk all you want but when I get somebody on the mat from a Kung Fu Dojo they end up buying me donuts...
That's if they wake up blessings and praises to you pal...
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Aytime you take a persons life you are accountable for it the law will charge with manslaughter and you can also be civicly held accountable for wrongful death so always try to avoid killing unless you are truly fearful of danger to ur life or even someone elses a fistfight will not grant the right for that!
Idiot read again all is explained you my friend are just too dumb to understand it
What I the most reliable pressure point in your body...
There is a way to do it in that specific spot but u need to know how to do it. My friend's stepmom was a nurse so she needed to know how to do that.
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